Stealth Evo 465 or 495

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Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#1 Post by Neumo » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:37 pm

Hi Guys n Girls
I have listened to some thoughts posted back to me a couple of weeks ago when I asked about advice on a yak (tarpon 140) for fishing in Moreton Bay, offshore work and dams as well.
Thanks for your advice.
I am now thinking that a glass yak will be better suited for my needs.
I was thinking a Stealth Evo 465 or 495.
I had a chat to Dennis at stealth kayaks today and was impressed by the time he spent me and his knowledge. He was very helpful.
I just wanted to know anyone else thoughts on these yaks as well and what they think of them.
I really like the storage capacity of these yaks and sounds like their speed will be great for covering good distance on the water.
Would either be ok for my needs?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#2 Post by Edstar » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:55 pm

Which ever Dennis reccomended would be good. I have a 465 and it's fine for me. Still stores my 7foot one piece rods. Speed wise I think the it's fast enough. But would I like a 495? Probably yes. The longer the faster and who doesn't want to go faster? It's just the extra weight and storage of the kayak out of the water u have to consider. 495 is too big for me to store it inside my garage. Hope this helps.

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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#3 Post by Neumo » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:44 pm

Hi Edstar
Hmmm food for thought
The best size is probably the 465 but I could manage to squeeze a 495 in my shed with a bit of re organization
I suppose there is not that much difference in weight to lift on the car between the two but every kilo does count.I have sat in both and they are both a good size to sit in.
As long as they fit 7ft rods in and are quick on the water I will be happy.
But as you said who doesn't want to go faster!
It will probably depend on which boat comes up at the right price.
Can't wait to get my hands on one.
Thanks for your input.
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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#4 Post by unsinkable 2 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:47 pm

Both would do the trick, absolutely. both would be quick enough, both will do more or less the same thing, but he 495 being that bit bigger will have a little bit more speed, capacity, and probably stability. The speed will mean you might be a bit more comfortable going longer distances. the 465, being shorter, will be more maneuverable, and will surf differently to a 495. lighter and easier to handle off water too, which is well worth considering. Weigh up those pros and cons as a starter and see what will be best for you, and be sure to keep talking to dennis- he's got plenty of knowledge on the products that he sells and is honestly the best reference point here. You won't regret moving to glass either way if you're doing anything but scraping your kayak over rocks and oysters IMO- the speed and easy storage makes for an awesome fishing platform.
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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#5 Post by Neumo » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:39 pm

Great things to consider
Was not thinking of their ability to manoeuvre in surf etc
I suppose its not all about the speed.
The more I think of a glass yak the more I think why haven't I got one sooner.
They seem very versatile and I think will open up more Fishing opportunities for me.
Will prob end up fishing more with better results cause of places I can get to quicker.
Thanks unsinkable
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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#6 Post by Jamie D » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:04 pm

Mate , I'd be thinking seriously about flagging the evolutions all together and going for a fisha 500 , exact same hull as the evolution 495 , I think they're even using the 495 mould to make them but you get

1. A modified top deck with cool features and finishing superior to the 495
2. Lighter construction materials , evo 495 = 29ish kilos fisha 500 = 23 ish kilos
3. A more responsive surf style rudder improving turning ability and holding a true line in wind better , which in almost every review by kayak magazines or websites on the Evolution 495 is the leading criticism of the evo " under ruddered " is the term used .
4. Venturi drain holes in the foot wells to let water out and give a drier ride .

For the extra 800 bucks or whatever it costs to go for the fisha 500 over the evolution 495 , the amount of time your on the water , lifting the boat on and off a car and in the wind , the extra 800 bucks will be the best 800 bucks you ever put into something

The Evolutions are a dated range , I used to own a 495 , great boat , fantastic boat , but they're the past , the fisha and Profisha range are the present

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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#7 Post by Lazybugger » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:16 pm

Yep, What Jamie said if budget allows.

If it doesn't then go by weight. And by that i mean yours. If you are closer to 60 then 100kg go the 465. 495 if you're a big lad.

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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#8 Post by Neumo » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:56 pm

Hi guys
Thanks for the input again
Dennis did point me towards the direction of the fisha 460 and it certainly is a great boat
Seems like it has pretty much everything a person might need
Great to sit in as well
I was very impressed with the features of this unit and a 500 would certainly be quicker.
I was hoping to maybe get a 2nd hand unit as my first glass yak and this probably counts out the fisha range for me.
I do agree the fishas are better boat on a quick look but might not be available to me cause of price
I wish!
Sounds like the 495 is a goer for its era tho
I am app 85 kg so a 465 might be good as well.
I appreciate the input heaps and this all helps in my decision.
Cheers guys

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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#9 Post by Edstar » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:26 pm

Anything u can afford is what u should get. And always leave budget for the extras. Since buying my first glass less than 6months ago I've bought a carbon fibre paddle, 3-4new rods, new gps/fishfinder and probably a whole lot more :lol: and I'm got my eye on so dry pant for next winter. And possibly an upgrade fisha next yr as well. :lek: but at least my first glass got me out there and catching fish.

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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#10 Post by dru » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:01 am

Unless they have changed the moulds over time, there are a couple of key differences in these yaks.

First question is what is your size? 495 suits a bigger bloke a lot better. Its more stable and better balanced. But if you are like me say 5'10" and only 84kg, the 495 is less efficient. You sit lower in the 495 (still the case DT?) which gives stability, but you loose imo some paddling comfort.

The 465 was one of the best that came out of Stealth and I think it still is. The 495 is better for the right bloke. It's shite for me.

If you're talking to DT, surely you are paddling them? They are actually quite different feeling yaks. Wet test is the answer.


PS for sheer practicality, especially off shore, both are out of the spectrum they are so good. Just pick the one that works best for you.
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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#11 Post by dennist » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:32 am

dru wrote:
If you're talking to DT, surely you are paddling them? They are actually quite different feeling yaks. Wet test is the answer
Wish I had demo Evos to offer test paddles - however as of last week the only way an Evo 465 would be available in Aus is as a second hand unit- they have been replaced by the Fisha 460 and my last remaining stock was sold at crazy good prices - there are a couple 495's left going at $550 less than usual - I believe this is why the question is being asked.

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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#12 Post by Neumo » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:57 pm

Hi Guys
Been away for a while and haven't been able to reply.
I am 5'10'and 85kg app. and have not paddled either the 465 or 495.
I have only looked at them on the floor of Dennis T's shop and sat in them both as well as a fisha 460.
The fisha felt good and was quite snug to sit in with a comfortable seating position. Both Evos were great to sit with a bit more room I felt and still a great position. I believe the only way to really test them is go for a paddle but that may not be possible. The 465 would certainly be slightly better to get on and off the water.
Interesting Dru that your opinion between the 465 n 495 considering you are about the same size as me and how the two boats feel. It would be great to paddle both side by side to really compare.
Thanks guys.
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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#13 Post by Marty75 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:05 pm

I'm 6'1 and around 90kg. I'm very happy with my Evo 465.

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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#14 Post by Neumo » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:36 pm

Thanks for your input Marty75.
I guess the 465 would certainly suit my size quite well.
Just a matter finding one.
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Re: Stealth Evo 465 or 495

#15 Post by tommo1 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:05 am

I've owned a 465 and currently own a 495
Both are excellent yaks.
Speed wise there is no difference.

The 465 would suit

As far as rudder systems go the 465 / 495 rudder system would suit better if you are going fish dams etc,
When I paddle my ocean ski or surf ski in the river systems weed and debris can snag onto the rudder
495 and 465 rudder system would be less snaggy, As far as the 465 or 495 in the surf I have no issues

The fisha series are excellent yaks but in the 2nd market you can get an excellent 465 or 495 for half the price of a fisha model

Good luck
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